Kokoda General Discussions

11 August 2009 Plane Crash

Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:22:15 +0000

Today is the day 12 months ago of the terrible plane crash....family are gathering today for a memorial service in PNG....my thoughts are with them

Bit Quiet On The Homefront...

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:23:36 +0000

Helloooooo....is anyone out there??

Bomana War Cemetery

Tue, 04 May 2010 04:45:27 +0000

Was stationed in Port Moresby with the Army from 72-74 and we attended the Dawn Service at Bomana where my uncle is interred and I would have to say that it is one of the most moving dawn services that I have attended.
If you can visualise the fog swirling around the graves, the smell of the flowers on the fence lines and then the Last Post coming from behind you in the still of the morning, has a tendency to make the hairs on the back of the neck stand up.

Qld (brisbane-based) Trekkers

Tue, 04 May 2010 01:36:54 +0000

I know I didn't trek with KTL, but for those who have, I just thought it might be a good idea for you all (even me since I consider myself part of the KTL family as a result of being on this forum for so long!) to get together for a BBQ or something at somewhere like the Botanical Gardens to talk and share about your Kokoda Experiences. A chance to make new friends or meet up with old friends.

Thoughts anyone?

fluppy

Anzac Day

Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:52:45 +0000

Ok, so I took part in our local area's ANZAC Day march/parade (representing our local cadet unit - 127RCU). This was good. ANZAC Day is a chance not only to remember those fallen at Gallipoli etc, but those that have served in other wars & those presently serving in our Defence Force.

I obtained the Courier Mail's tribute poster of Australia's involvement in wars throughout history - past & present. I noticed Kokoda was not mentioned. This bothered me greatly and so I asked my partner why he though Kokoda wasn't included?

He suggested it might be because it was a 'chokko war' - because all of the 'real' troops were helping out o'seas in other places. I was deeply offended - not by him personally - but by the mere thought that some people might indeed be of this opinion.

These brave, galiant men were more than just soldiers. They were literally, Australia's saving grace. How is it that this is not recognised on one of our nations most pertinant days of rememberance?

fluppy

Mt Warning

Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:11:28 +0000

Does anyone know how the Mt Warning walk compares to an average day on the Track

Ground Sheet For Tent

Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:32:56 +0000

Hello Trekkers,

I wondering peoples thoughts on ground sheets and did anybody take one.
The suggested itinery list taking one incase of wet weather but is it really necesary, I'm trying to reduce weight as I intend to carry my own pack but I may change my mind yet.
I have bought a Mantis 2 tent and may be hard to use with a ground sheet because of the odd shape.

Any thoughts and opions are most welcome.

Scott

Trekon Rations Packs Ceased Trading

Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:58:54 +0000

Hi All,

Its seems that Trekon have stopped making their ration packs.
Does anyone know what Kokoda Trekking is using now?
I am trekking in July and was looking forward to trying out Trekons ration pack.

Regards
Scott

Call For Assistance

Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:42:46 +0000

Hi all

I'm hoping some of you out there may be able to assist me with my ongoing research in to visitation to Kokoda.

My research is now focusing on why people are choosing to visit Kokoda in recent years.

If anyone has a website, blog, photo journal or anything along those lines that has information on why you have undertaken (or are planning to undertake) the trek, it will help me. I need personal anecdotal evidence to assist me justify figures I am using. I have been looking through the testimonials threads, but am hoping there might be more info out there.

Feel free to either link them here, email me or PM me the details. Similarly, if you wish to discuss any aspect, don't hesitate to contact me.

Thanks
Rob

robert.kelly@arts.monash.edu.au

PS, mods, if this is inappropriate to ask, or posted in the wrong spot, just let me know.

2010 - New Year, New Goals

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:35:18 +0000

So....who is trekking this year? Or who is trekking again this year?

Gail - what are some of your goals for KTL this year?

fluppy

Seasons Greetings

Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:22:51 +0000

Maureen and I would love to wish everyone reading this post a most enjoyable Christmas day together where possible with family and friends we hope that this is one day is a very special one for you all.

We all have them, health or other, so put all your problems behind you for the day and enjoy every moment of it.

It is our hope that 2010 brings you all a year of good health, success in those ventures you have, many enjoyable and memorable times.

These wishes go specially to Gail, Russel and the entire KTL team who have in some way touched all those of us who have trekked Kokoda. It is a pity that the boys do not get to read these posts so if it is at all possible Gail to pass our wishes on to them.

Enjoy
Maureen and Brian

Off-peak Season

Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:33:18 +0000

You would think I would know this by now being a member of this forum family for 3 years, but...is it just me or is there a lack of posting or questions - be they out of preparation or idle curiosity - on this forum once the trekking season has finished?

Sorry - I only just remembered, Christmas is coming up and the last thing people are thinking about is Kokoda...

flups

Be Inspired Watch Tv7 Sunday 6.30pm

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:56:27 +0000

Be Inspired watch "Sunday Night" on Channel 7 6.30pm this Sunday 22nd for Kurt Fearnley's Kokoda Trek.

This will just about inspire anyone if you have doubts about being able to undertake the Kokoda trek this report will certainly inspire you to do so.

Brian

Daily Trek Reports

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:05:46 +0000

So that friends and family back home can follow the progress of trekkers who use Kokoda Trekking Limited, they post daily reports of how the group and individuals are going.

While ever radio communications permit these reports are quickly added to their website and enable messages and encouragment to be passed back and forth to those back home wondering how it is all going out on the trail/track.

This is a valuable service that no other trekking company provides and it has been well received over the many years that KTL have operated.

Just another reason to book with a company fully resourced and on the ground at both ends of the Kokoda Trail 365 days a year.

Siv And Bj

Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:58:12 +0000

QUOTE(lilabella @ 7 Oct 2009, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

BJ,
Keep pluging away, it will get easier, you will be proud of yourself when it is all over
Regards
Don

QUOTE(Boss Meri @ 7 Oct 2009, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

7th October: We heard from Johnsford this afternoon that they were at Jap's ladder and were thinking of staying there the night instead of moving on to Naoro.

All trekkers were doing ok with no problems whatsoever at this stage along with the guides and porters.

So at this point, they all appear to be enjoying themselves and plodding along the track heading for the village of Naoro.

Photographs:

Pic 1: Naoro Village
Pic 2: Japs Ladder area

Some Questions

Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:04:31 +0000

Just reading through the schedules, what is the difference to the 8 day one to the 9 day one, is it just a matter of timing (sleep onsite then start as opposed to flying in and starting straight away)

PNG Guide vs. Australian Guide, is the track commentary focus different (PNG = more Local information about the people/flora, Aus = More WWII info?) or is it for people who'd prefer one or the other? Or no real difference.

What's the most rewarding direction? Is it following the retreating footsteps Kokoda to Ower's or finishing up at Kokoda. If you finish at Ower's do you just jump on a truck/bus and get taken back to your hotel room? Is any direction easier?

Also is there anywhere that lists the amount of time on average it takes to do each days walking in average conditions. Are you walking like 8-10 hours each day?

Sorry for all the questions, have been reading the forums and most of my questions have been answered.

TIA

Another Death On The Track

Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:06:29 +0000

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kokoda-trac...91005-ghzs.html

Medication

Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:25:30 +0000

i had someone at work tell me that i may not be able to go on Kokoda as i am an asthmatic. Does anyone know if the rules are going to change?

Going It Alone

Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:15:16 +0000

For the time that I have been planning to do the trek, I was always planning on taking my old man with me.

He is far fitter then I am and also a heck of a lot tougher and I guess all my thoughts were about making this something for us.

I have just found out that there is no way that he will be able to do the trek (needs both knees reco'd essentially - after years of footy abuse) and I guess now I need to make the decision whether to do it alone.

For me, the physical side of the trek is daunting. Being overweight and trying vehemently to drop the excess weight (or at least as much as possible) and get fit (haven't been properly fit for 10 years) has been a challenge, but I guess the mental aspect of losing my 'mate' for the walk is the most scary.

It is easy for me to imagine pushing myself to keep up with the old man, but I'm just not sure how I will go alone.

I guess what I'm after is feedback from others who have trekked Kokoda alone. How much harder was it? Did you miss the companionship?

Sorry for the carry on, but this has really thrown all my plans into disarray and I'm trying to get my head around it.

Is 3 Weeks Before Leaving Too Early For Dr's Letter Of Medications

Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:02:12 +0000

For customs. Dr needs to write a letter of all medications we will be taking. Am I doing it too early or should I leave it for another week?

fluppy

How Young Is Too Young?

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:38:57 +0000

I have touched on this subject once before and thought it was opportune to raise it once more.

The strong medical advice given to me and my personal experience is that young children up to age 15 should not be tackling the Kokoda Track. There is no doubt healthy and active children will complete the crossing with ease and often will boost that they were first to complete individual days trekking.

This youthful enthusiasm is understandable however this is not the important medical issue.

Sustained physical exertion by young on the Kokoda Track over a 8-9 day period places far to much jarring on young developing bone structures and it only when the youngster reaches early adulthood that resultant constant stress fractures become apparent.

I am the father of 3, 25year old plus children, two of whom trekked with me in 2007 to retrace the wartime footysteps of my late father, a member of "A" Company, 39th Battalion. Unfortunately I will be too old when my first grandchild reaches age 15 to consider another Trek trek involving 3 generations.

Brian, if you read this, I hasten to add, I have no problem with your plan to do the shorter walk with your 8 year old grandson from Kokoda to Isurava and return. I am sure it will be a wonderful experience for him.

I have first hand experience of witnessing many young children achieving extraordinary feats as young athletes only to be washed up at age 21 due to burn out and by far too much pressure having been placed upon developing bones as youngsters. My oldest son was an Australian Youth Rowing champion in 2001 however at age 21 suffered a debilitating back problem which combined with alternative professional career ambitions brought and end to a promising rowing career. We have always thought the back problem may have been related to carrying excessive weight in hiking packs during his scouting years at ages 11 -15.

Having stated all the above I nevertheless appreciate that other Parents may have an alternative view which I will respect. Please do however seek your own Medical advice.

Geoff Hardie

How Young Is Too Young?

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:38:56 +0000

Sad News Another Death On The Track

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:16:06 +0000

Sadly I report that there has today been another death on the Kokoda Track a 38 year old father whose daughter was in remission for leukaemia was walking for a cancer charity. I believe that he may have died from a heart attack. Sadly I understand it is also his wife's birthday today.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

Brian

Port Moresby

Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:09:40 +0000

Hey guys, just looking around and can't seem to work out something. When we get to Port Moresby the day before (and the day after) the trek, we will obviously need a room to crash in at one of the hotels in the area which is fine.

But what do we do with the extra gear that isn't coming with us on trek like passports etc? Do we need to hire out a room for the entire time that we're away? Can we leave valuables somewhere else that is safe?

I guess I'm feeling a little lost with all of this right now... LOL

Any help appreciated,

Mark

Gateway Hotel Lockers

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:11:12 +0000

For things like leaving your passport etc there. Do they have them?

If so, how big are they? as we want to leave a spare set of clothes at the hotel along with other things not neccessary to take on the track with us. Do you get one each or one per couple? Or do you just leave all the stuff you need to leave in your room at the hotel?

Seven Bridges Walk

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:23:20 +0000

Is anyone out there contemplating doing the Seven Bridges walk in Sydney on the 25th of October ? It should be plenty of fun. (maybe)
Wendy and Terry who did our Kokoda trek are flying in from South Ozz to do it with us.

http://www.7bridgeswalk.com.au/

Sms/text To Kokoda

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:25:56 +0000

Hi

I made a couple of very special mates when trekking Kokoda one and his family are very special to both my wife and I.

Whilst I have spoken by phone to my mate when he was in Moresby we have been waiting for the mobile phones to start operating in Kokoda as we all know now this has just happened.

I am not sure exactly how much it would cost us to phone a mobile in Kokoda what ever to talk for a while would not be cheap even for us just imagine how expensive it would be for those in Kokoda with their mobiles to phone you specially if they do not realise every second counts they would soon eat up their very limited funds.

My Kokoda mate and I agreed some time ago that when phones came on there that we would generally only send SMSs to each other this would reduce the expense of phone calls considerably.

We have now sent a couple either way I am unsure what it costs in Kokoda but using Skype here it is only costs 13 cents for each SMS to Kokoda.

I would suggest that other Ex Trekkers who may want to keep in touch with friends made whilst trekking consider the same as a SMS is a less expensive way for all to do so.

Brian

Did Anyone Keep A Journal On Their Trek?

Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:04:52 +0000

Just wondering as I have started keeping one of my training and am kicking myself for not thinking of the idea sooner - otherwise not only would I have started one much, much earlier, but also would've added photos along the way of my training to remind myself (on my down days) that I didn't do all that training to just give up so easily

Are there times on the track or at camp where you can stop to write notes/journal entries or are you that dog-gone tired that all you won't have the energy to pick up a pen, let alone write? Or perhaps that tired that all you want to do is sleep?

Re-entry - Getting Back To 'normal'

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:50:01 +0000

Does everyone have 're-entry' issues? Or is it just me?

I didn't even want to get back on the plane to come home. Kokoda was always going to be more of an emotional trial for me, rather than physical, and it was/is more so than I expected. I'm just still feeling a little dis-associated from things and really had to make an effort to go to my city job. On the other hand, I'm really excited to see my training clients again.

Is that normal?

Eve

Trekking Group Size

Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:02 +0000

The issue of Dash 8 aircraft flying into Kokoda is a bigger issue than I thought. At this stage I agree with Gail, this would not be in anyone's interest other than the likes of Charlie Lynn's organisation and their grossly oversized trekking groups.

A most sensible rule on Tasmania's Overland Track,when I last checked, was that groups must not exceed 15. I see no reason whatsoever why this should not apply to Kokoda.

Gail, I have noted your participation, with your industry, meeting with the Kokoda Track Authority from time to time. No doubt you are persuing the issue of appropriate trekking group numbers and I am certain you can count on the support of the majority of the contributors to this forum in favour of restricting numbers within groups.

I am certainly not advocating a reduction in annual overall trekking numbers other than to a maximum which the Authority deems appropriate for overall sustainability.

Cheers, Geoff Hardie

Back Safe From Kokoda

Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:04:17 +0000

I saw the thread about the plane that went down, but haven't read it yet, because I'm on my mum's dialup account and things are taking ages to load.

I was on the flight that was initially reported (in Australia) to be missing, with Adventure Kokoda. We had two flights into Kokoda that morning due to the size of our group. The No Roads flight was between our two. Our first plane took off and couldn't land, due to the weather conditions, so came back to refuel. They took off again and landed safely. No Roads took off not long after. When we (the 2nd group of AK trekkers) took off, the weather looked ok, but we couldn't land. We stayed in the air about 90 minutes, trying to land and the pilots looking for the other plane (we didn't know at the time), then went back to PM. It wasn't till about 5.30/6pm, at our base accommodation in Sogeri, we were told people had been told it was our plane that went down, so there were lots of phone calls home to say we were ok. We had to get to Kokoda the next day by flying into Popondetta, then getting truck into Kokoda (including having to get across the Kamusi River in tractor tyre tubes!).

Those first few days were pretty tough and we had a minute silence for those lost in the crash, at Kokoda before we trekked out, and remembered them again at Isurava at our dawn service. Channel 9 flew a chopper into Isurava and we had mixed emotions about talking to them.

We certainly felt for the people of No Roads and definitely moreso when we passed them having to stretcher out a trekker who'd hurt his leg quite badly. An incredible sight to witness, but a sad run of bad luck for the company and its people.

We had to do our 11 day trek in 9 days, so it was pretty hard going the first couple of days. Experiencing below zero temperatures and ice on our tents at Myola was certainly unexpected (cold, painful night!), but we learnt quickly nothing is how you think it will be in PNG. I had the most amazing time, and apart from a sore knee the last couple of days, made it through safely...and with over 6GB of photos and video!!!

Our group is setting up a blog for photos and a youtube site for our videos and I'll share the link once people start to upload their files, for anyone who's interested.

All things going to plan, some of us will be going back next year. I most definitely will be and I'm more confident than ever now about starting my trek training business in Melbourne and I'm really excited about being able to get people physically prepared to go (as much as they can be, anyway!).

It's been a very emotional couple of weeks and I'm glad to be home, but also would have loved to stay longer.

Eve
(new user name, coz I couldn't log into my EveG account.)

Orohaven Retreat

Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:27:57 +0000

This is directed mostly for Gail, but feel free to add to it...

Is Orohaven open to other trekking groups? Just wondering as I am (unfortunately) not trekking with KTL and would love to have the opportunity to experience this magnificent piece of paradise

fluppy

Back On The Horse

Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:39:29 +0000

When I was a teenager I was crossing a creek on a horse that panicked whilst doing so ran up the bank at the same time throwing me off, I hit my head on a bough of tree temporarily knocking me out fortunately very briefly for when I awoke I was actually sitting in the creek with water around my neck, very lucky you will agree. By that time my father seeing the horse without me came back to find me after assuring that I was okay he insisted on me getting back on the same horse which I did spending the rest of he day on it without any problems at all.

Since then like most of us I have had several "knocks" in my life some quite dramatic but the lesson learnt that day from my father has lived with me for after each "knock" I got back on my "horse" and got on with life.

In todays Sunday Mail I read that the trekking company involved it the tragic accident, even more so for them, has got back on it's "Horse". This must have been a hard decision for them to make and I am sure that those lost in the accident is one that they would like made.

I congratulate them and other trekking companies along with thier guides and porters who with all care are continuing with thier planned treks as the lively hood of so many that in some way depends on these treks taking place.

Lets hope that those who may be reconsidering trekking Kokoda get back on thier "Horse" and go ahead with thier trek.

Brian

Plane Missing In Png

Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:55:12 +0000

Just read on a news website that a plane has gone missing on route from Pt Moresby to Kokoda.

Lets hope all are okay and are found safe and well.

Government Rebate?

Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:59:02 +0000

I was doing a bit of hunting about looking at equipment I'm going to need for the trek and ended up at a little store which specialised in such things.

In speaking with the sales lady, she mentioned to me that purchases for equipment would be eligible for a government rebate of the GST value.

Whilst not a huge amount of money, any is better than none I figure, but I can't remember ever reading/hearing about this.

Is this correct?

Pack Weight

Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:46:20 +0000

Hi everyone,

Well my dad and I have decided to do Kokoda in May 2010 (I need the time to get fit!), and have been doing my homework for the past couple of months.

However, since talking with a customer of mine, I am now confused.

Dad and I are looking to carry our own pack (no personal porter) and I thought this would mean I would need to carry around 18kg's in the pack. I'm not so sure I'll be fit enough for carrying full pack so will make up my mind closer to date.

Talking with my customer, who has done the track, he tells me this weight is the "day pack" only and the porter will carry similar.

Surely this is incorrect? Wouldn't 18kg's be the total weight as a guide?

Thanks for clarifying this for me. I am just a little confused now.

Wobbly Legs!

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:57:16 +0000

Noticed a couple of times that sometimes after walking for a couple of hours, my legs seem to turn to jelly and I feel really wobbly.

To combat this, I have been pushing through it until my legs go into overdrive and eventually they function on automatic pilot.

Yes, I am getting nutrition into me (power foods like bananas, apples, nuts etc) and am keeping up the fluids - if I drink any more water I'll spend the day just peeing it all out instead of putting one foot in front of the other walking the track!

Anyway, just wondering what wobbly legs are caused from and does anyone else get this?

Kokoda Pre-trek Physical Training

Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:11:35 +0000

Hi all,

I'm not trying to sell anything - just genuinely looking for some feedback.

I'm a personal trainer and will be doing Kokoda in August. Once I come back, I intend to start training small groups specifically in preparation for doing Kokoda. I'll also be utilising the services of a friend who's also a personal trainer and is coming along with me when I train - rain, hail or shine (because nobody else will!), so she understands what's involved.

I know there are other groups that offer training, either through the trekking organisation or gyms. But for people like me who are on their own (I'm going with my dad, but he's in Qld and I'm in Vic) and don't want to join a gym, there doesn't seem to be much of a structured alternative that doesn't have some kind of catch to it, like being a member of a club, or going with a particular trekking company. This is why I want to pursue this business idea.

The other thing I've found is that I've spent a lot of time contemplating what clothing etc I want to buy, how much it's going to cost, where I'll have to buy it, and all the planning that goes along with it. And I'm just getting frustrated.

By chance, I've started working with a company that sells active (gym) wear and in July they are also bringing out a range of anti-mosquito treated products, including shirts, pants, hats, socks, sleeping bag liners etc to help protect against malaria and dengue fever . The fabric is odourless and non-irritant and each batch of material is certified. Obviously, there is still a requirement for the tablets and repellent to complement the clothing. I'll be wearing the clothing when I go in August and may become a distributor if they do all they claim.

My questions are...

Would an all-outdoor, 3 month training program be something you would consider?
Would it be beneficial to have trek clothing provided as part of a package with your training?
Would you prefer to choose to purchase the clothing separately? (A training and clothing package, or either one on its own.)
Would you prefer to train in a small group (eg one trainer and up to 6 people) or a larger group (eg two trainers and up to 12 people)? Or would you rather groups be split according to fitness levels?
Is there anything you wish you did or wish you knew in your training that would have helped you on the trek?

Any other ideas, feedback, suggestions would be great.

Thanks!
Eve

Boot Blowout Shock Horror.

Fri, 29 May 2009 19:53:31 +0000

A couple of weeks ago I was out walking in the Glenbrook Gorge , just west of Sydney and found that the sole was starting to peel away from my Meindl boots.Ive only had then for 20 odd years and feel as though they are just broken in.

I was horrified, we are off to PNG in 2 months and just when I need them most they start to fall to bits on me.

While I was searching the net for a good boot retailer I came across an article on a Paddy Pallin website about a company in Salisbury Road Hornsby that does hiking boot repairs.
It cost me $45 and they look as good as new and the guy gauranteed me that they were as good as new.

I cut and pasted theguys contact details from the Paddy Pallin website.

Nu-Tred
3/12 Salisbury Rd
Asquith
NSW 2077
PH: 02 9477 3944
Fax: 02 9482 1766
Mobile: 0414 424 060

Nu-Tred having been providing specialist shoe and boot repairs for 11 years. As well as repairing a wide range of walking and sporting footwear, they specialise in outdoor brands such as Scarpa and Rockport

Travel Insurance

Fri, 01 May 2009 05:04:56 +0000

Any recommendations? Asthmatic, autistic, but other than that, no prior existing medical conditions. Needs to at the very least cover evacuation, treatment in hospital/medical assistance and loss of luggage.

Feeling a little overwhelmed with all the information out there & not sure who to go through. So far QBE looks pretty good, but would like to know who other people that have trekked (or going to trek Kokoda) have gone through.

Inspiration For Women

Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:47:02 +0000

I am so tired and drained from pursuing a career. I am a full-fledged career woman with a satisfactory marketing job. I have challenged myself many times in the corporate world. I now feel that I have missed so many precious and enjoyable moments in my life, because work became before everything and how do I keep climbing the corporate ladder when I feel stuck and in the same old routine. I need a break!

Organising Transport Back To Port Moresby

Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:55:20 +0000

Hey Guys,
Myself and a couple of mates have been busy organising a trip North to complete the trek,
whilst we aren't going with a tour company we are organising virtually the same features.
The only part im struggling to organise was transport back to Port Moresby on completion of the trek.
Whilst tougher people may suggest we simply trek all the way back i'm hoping that i'm able to get a
short charter flight or similar.
Does anyone know how i can organise this and who with?
Thanks a heap.
Mike.

Japanese Trekker - Any Issue?

Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:31:28 +0000

Hello,
I'm hoping to walk the trail this summer. I'll be traveling in a group with other Papua New Guineans so I'm assuming it won't be an issue. But can you see any potential issue walking the trail as a Japanese?

Ow! Ow! Ow! - Breaking New Boots In

Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:22:18 +0000

Couldn't find the original topic of boots that I commented on sometime last year. Hi-Tek was my brand of choice for boots (for my size) as suggested by Gail in the thread I can't locate.

It is a nightmare trying to find good quality children's size 2 boots suitable for trekking Kokoda. But I think we did it. Is Zamberlan a good brand?

They are a 'Skill GT Dark Brown' leather type with Gore-Tex lining and Vibram soles. They were $389.95 but had a whopping 80% off as no-one was able to fit them. They must've been meant for me - because I fit them - toes, heels, sides/width of feet, pronation of feet, ankles - every which way, I seemed to fit them

We only paid $78 for them - so naturally, couldn't go past such a discount. Would you? I have been wearing them all day with the new hiking socks I will be using on Kokoda and even kept them on when I had a 30 min cat-nap.

They are not so bad when I walk around (a bit uncomfortable, but that is to be expected) but I noticed after my feet were slightly inactive while I was resting for that 30mins that they became very painful across the tops of both my feet about say, 3rd notch down from the top on the laces (I don't think I have tied them too tight).

If I flex my feet in the boots (point my toes upwards), then right across the first knuckle on my big toe hurts as it strikes the top of the boot - but this is only on my left toe. Both of my feet and my left toe are still hurting. Is this because it is my first day wearing them and the leather hasn't stretched yet or is there something wrong with my feet? How long will this last?

39th Australian Inf Batt. 1941-1943 Assoc. Inc.

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:00:08 +0000

Hi all

For those interested in the affairs and history of the 39th Battalion, their Website, www.39battalion.org contains comprehensive info.
Cheers, Geoff Hardie

Prescription Glasses/bifocals

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:05:29 +0000

I wear bifocal prescription glasses and was wondering if past trekkers could please comment on whether they experienced any problems going downhill with them? Also fogging up - a remedy?Cheers

Creek Crossings - In Your Hiking Boots?

Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:18:04 +0000

Is it the norm to leave your hiking boots on when going through the creeks? Or do you change into your sandals? Just wondering - as leaving them on would mean you'd always have wet feet I guess.

Hydration/day Pack

Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:16:07 +0000

My kids bought me a Black Wolf Python hydration pack for christmas. It has a 3 litre bladder and is rated as holding 15 litres of gear. However, by the time I fill the bladder and add 2 x 1 litre additonal water bottles it's practically full. Can anyone offer advice on just what I need to carry myself? I'm hiring a porter. Do I carry my first aid kit, day snacks, loo paper, sunscreen/mozzie off, poncho, camera.... in my daypack so that i don't need to be bothering my porter throughout the day? Or can I get gear from him if need be ( such as my first aid kit)?

Also would appreciate some guidelines on the size of the daypack. Would 25 litres be big enough?

Thanks

Aeorosol Cans/tubes Of Things

Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:29:53 +0000

Are these allowed into PNG? Thinking stuff like Aeroguard (mozzie/insect repellant). I have heard that the brand 'Bushman's' comes in a roll-on form and was wondering if it was any good. Deodorant is not a problem as I know that comes in a roll-on form. Finding an anti-perspirant roll-on is difficult though...

What about things like sunscreen & toothpaste? I don't mind not brushing my teeth for 9 days, but I'm sure others around me certainly will if I open my mouth to speak! Is toothpaste and sunscreen in tubes ok to bring? How should I pack these so they don't burst in my pack? I don't really want to use a toiletry bag as this can take up a lot of space in my pack. Wrap them up in a freezer bag/zip-lock bag?

Also, soaps. My husband and his father are often away for work, staying at many different hotels around Australia. From their travels, they have collected many small 'hotel' soaps. I figured these would be ideal to bring as;
1) they are small & compact
2) they are individually wrapped, so if you lose one, it's no big deal.
3) they save me buying soap that camping stores try to sell.

Lastly, toilet paper or packets of Wet Ones?

Any thoughts/comments would be great. Thanks.

Wondering If There Is A Printer-friendly Option

Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:19:08 +0000

On this site - as there are some topics I want to print out to aid my preparation for my trek.

Trekking In January

Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:07:09 +0000

Hi everyone,

I am interest in doing the Kokoda track with my brother in January. I have noticed that there are no treks offered at this time of year. Is it possible to complete it in January and do you do any at that time of year or would we have to sort it out ourselves?

Thanks for you help and the site. Its awesome!

Jace.

Visa Conditions For Entry Into Png

Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:58:22 +0000

Something on the tv show 'Border Security' here in Australia brought to my attention.

Here, in Australia, all criminal convictions must be declared before a Visa entry is granted.

Does Papua New Guinea have a similar thing in place?

I am asking because I am autistic. Before I was diagnosed with autism, I was charged (and convicted) of a number of serious assaults, resisting arrest and wilful damage.

That was roughly about 10 years ago. I have not been incarcerated (in prison) or had drug offences or murder or anything serious like that. However neither did the guy on Border Security (whom was denied his Visa) [although he did spend time in prison].

He was a bit sketchy on the details, but thought he was doing the right thing by declaring he had a criminal history.

I do not want to be in the same situation having trained and prepared for so long for this trek only to find I will not be granted a Visa for entry into PNG due to my past and/or pre-existing condition.

One of the reasons I am trekking Kokoda is to raise awareness of autism and autism-related conditions to get teenagers/young adults the funding and the help they need for treatment - so they won't have to go through what I went through and so can avoid confrontations with people in authority/having a criminal history.

Any information regarding Visa entry conditions into Papua New Guinea would be greatly appreciated and would assist me in my planning/preparation of trekking Kokoda.

Thanks all in advance

Questions And Introduction

Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:38:59 +0000

Hello all;

My names Aaron, im 16 and come from Tasmania (please keep the two head jokes to a minimum...)

Anyway I have had a very generous offer from a family member to do the Kokoda track. I have chosen to go in 2011 (after yr 12) and will most likely going by myself. I know its a long way off, but I want to start looking into things now, and also clear a few things up as well.

I just have a few questions at the moment, and I figured this would be the best place to ask them.

I am interested in doing the actual battlefield trail with visits to points of interest along the way. eg. old barracks.

Does Kokoda Trekking have a trek including things like that? Or does it mostly cover the local villages along the way?

Also what is the maximum group size? I'm not really interested in going with a massive group, but more interested in a group under 20 people.

Is there anything else I should know in advance at the time being?

Also (and i dont want to seem rude here) but why would I choose Kokoda Trekking over another tour group?

Thanks in advance;

Aaron

Gifts For The Local Children

Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:31:42 +0000

I know there must be a lot (hundreds possibly?) of local village children in PNG, but I'd like to give some of the children some gifts as I have seen in photos on here. Things like colouring in books/crayons, a ball of some sort, a teddy, lollies or little things like that.

How would I go about doing this? I mean, in terms of packing. Should I buy here in Australia and take them with me or is there a place in PNG that would sell that sort of stuff?

Also, are there any villages that would oppose this idea of gifts to the children - like would any villages consider it offensive?

Also, I'd like to give my porter a gift - more a token of appreciation and deep gratitude rather than a 'gift' (I've heard they're mad keen on cigarettes! and possibly playing cards or something). Again, would I be better off buying here or over there?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Trekking Poles

Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:16:06 +0000

Apologies in advance if this is in the wrong board, but I can't help noticing that as I peruse the photos/latest news, that a lot of people seem to have the same trekking poles. They look hand-carved. I was wondering (if they are hand-carved by the locals) how I would go about getting one?

In The News

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:58:20 +0000

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24173144-421,00.html

Interesting title, designed to intrigue us all:

�Witchdoctor guards Debra Paver on jungle track�

Will be interesting to see if the full story comes out and what it is. If anyone has an update please pass on.

Kokoda Day 2008 - Gold Coast - This Friday/weekend

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:59:55 +0000

I read this somewhere and now can't find the information. It was due to be on this Friday (or possibly the weekend?) Does anyone know anything about this as I'd like to attend.

Kokoda Day 2008 - Gold Coast - This Friday/weekend

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:59:55 +0000

I read this somewhere and now can't find the information. It was due to be on this Friday (or possibly the weekend?) Does anyone know anything about this as I'd like to attend.

Ktt/kokoda Spirit

Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:25:18 +0000

I got to this forum via a link on the Kokoda Spirit website

http://www.kokodaspirit.com/

So...what I want to know is are you guys (Boss Meri etc) affiliated with Kokoda Spirit? Is Kokoda Trekking and Kokoda Spirit one in the same company or two separate entities?

I read about Wayne Wetherall on the Kokoda Spirit site, but I'm sure I've read his name somewhere here too. I am now confused

Please help clarify this - as I am trying to organise my booking dates and can't do that if I don't know which company we are going with.

Toilets :huh:

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:10:09 +0000

hi
i'm walking kokoda in late september and heard the toilets are really bad and that at some point your going to get "the runs"

is any of this true? and is it worse for females or males?

thanks

Trek 488 Army Cadets From Sydney 5 To 12 July 08

Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:03:58 +0000

Hello and welcome to Trek 488.

Well its 2 weeks till we arrive in Papua New Guinea.

Backpack

Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:17:05 +0000

I am a first time trekker heading to Kokoda in August and I am quite confused by the choices of backpacks. I will have a porter carrying mine but obviously I want to get the most reliable pack I can. Every camping store say's that there's is the best.
Are their a couple of reliable brands?

Elev8

Concerned Re Quote Request

Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:36:37 +0000

Hi...

I have been trying to get a quote for Kokoda trip (all inclusive) via this website and feel have done all the right things by emailing requests (2). As yet ave heard diddly squat - just wondering if I have done something wrong or responses are slow (like a couple of weeks so far)...

Trek 381 - Pamela And Stewart

Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:48:16 +0000

To the guys on Trek 381 (April/May 2008). I did not get Pamela and Stewart's contact details before we all departed. If anybody has them, could you please pass them on.

Also, I'm after Terry's address (one of the Porters from Gona). I am renovating and all my stuff is everywhere, including his address, and I have photos to send him.

Graham

Death Of A Trekker

Fri, 30 May 2008 01:46:16 +0000

As many would have heard, a relatively young man of 39, collapsed and died on the track this week from a suspected heart attack near Denaki while trekking with Kokoda Spirit. This is a timely reminder to all would be trekkers who are thinking of attempting the track without the assistance of a registered trekking company. This is a primitive and unforgiving land, and incidents like this can happen to anyone. This was a relatively fit man, who had a doctor�s certificate of clearance. Once on the track, there are NO communications and registered trekking companies have emergency contingencies in place for situations just like this one. There is no SES, there are no Search and Rescue helicopters, and there is no flying doctor service. If an emergency arises, it will ultimately be up to the trekking companies to respond. While my heart goes out to the families of this man, bear a thought for the situation the trekking leaders would have found themselves in. Firstly depending on where he collapsed, there would have been little or no signal for the sat phone, which meant a runner would have had to be dispatched with the phone to try and get a signal to call for help. Any aircraft would have had to have been dispatched from Port Moresby, at least an hour if not more away from Denaki. Then they would have had to get him to a site where a helicopter could land and pick him up, weather permitting. Unless a doctor could be dispatched with the helicopter, the nearest hospital is at Kokoda, which is only run by a nurse. I can only imagine what they must be feeling now, and know they would have done everything in their power to save him, but even with all their prior planning and experience, the unthinkable has still happened.
I have not posted this to scare would be trekkers, simply to enforce to all that the registered trekking companies are fully aware of how arduous and inaccessible the track is and all have contiguity�s in place in case of an emergency, but incidents such as this are a all too real possibility. To attempt to trek this track, without an experienced trek leader, without some sort of communication device, and a base in Port Moresby to be in constant contact with in case of emergency, and without an emergency plan in place, if an incident does occur, would in my mind, be very foolish and inconsiderate. Please remember that Kokoda is the trekking companies domain, they have, in conjunction with the Kokoda Track Authority spent a considerable amount of time, money and effort in putting safety procedures in place to protect all trekkers and to keep Kokoda relatively safe. I can say for absolute certain there is no other place in PNG where a sole expat female could walk with only local escorts for 7 days without fear of being attacked. It is expensive to trek Kokoda, and the trekking companies no matter how passionate they are about Kokoda, ultimately are a business and are there to make a living. I can fully understand when people are told how much it will cost them, to decide to trek themselves to try and save money, however what price do you put on safety? To the family and friends of the man who died, my deepest sympathies, it is no consolation to you I know, but be comforted by the knowledge that there are many spirits of brave men up there, he is in good company.

Camera For The Treck

Mon, 19 May 2008 05:23:39 +0000

Hi Guys and Girls

Im wanting to hear from any one who has done the treck on the topic of how long did your camera batteries last what sort of camera did you take ?
is there any device out there that will charge a lithum battery while in the bush ?

Lonely, How About Joining Us

Sat, 03 May 2008 04:25:16 +0000

Hi Folks

I am sure that we will not really be lonely with the Ukulele playing singing porters and Wallace as our guide at present there are only two of us on Trek 435 would sure like you to join us particularly if you a looking for a smaller, I am sure friendly, trekking group to join.

Possibly you are like myself not joining with a group of family or friends well join trek 435 and make some new friends. Possibly if you are in or in a near Brisbane area if you are interested in doing so we can get together before hand.

I am doing a 3-4 hour walk early this Monday Labour Day 5th May Mt Coot-tha if interested leave a reply here and I will get back to you.

See you in Trek 435?

Brian

Hiring Own Guide

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:35:16 +0000

Hi everyone,
I'm heading over to PNG in August this year and with a friend plan on hiking Kokoda, travelling by plane to Lae and then by boat to Rabaul where we will start our medical elective in Nonga Base Hospital for six weeks.
I have a question regarding hiking Kokoda. Most information i have found thus far regards joining an organized group. This is all well and good except we are on a strict budget and the thousands of dollars quoted is most probably too much.
So. Is it possible to hire a guide at Owens Corner for the duration of the trip? If so how much is the going rate for 6nights?
Myself and my friend are quite experienced hikers, Victorian High Country, etc. The main issue is regarding route finding.
So has anyone got any pointers?

Cheers,
Jonno

Future Trekkers? Emergency Dental Work Needed

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:37:05 +0000

Attention any future Kokoda Track trekkers who are capable of performing emergency dental work.
As at 21 March 2008, Kokoda resident (Sylvester Barai), who is the aging father of my personal porter, is suffering from poor dental health and is in pain. He is no longer able to chew anything hard and is therefore quite restricted in what he can eat.

This request is to any future trekker visiting Kokoda who may be able to assist in generously providing their expertise to these exceptionally poor big-hearted people. I can only hope that someone with sufficent prior warning, might be able to take adequate kit with them to provide some relief or service to Sylvester. In some cases, an ounce of planning can be worth a tonne of results.

Even if you are not a dentist, don't automatically exclude yourself from the helper list. These people all along the track, have nothing, so any help will be enormously appreciated. It could be the case that a doctor, ADF medic, nurse or even vet may be able to acquire sufficient skills in advance of their visit, to perform emergency dental work - or any medical help for that matter.

Kokoda has a hospital, but more in name than in practice. That is, no doctors, no medicines etc. So any skills & medicine that Aussies have, is widely considered premium by the PNG locals.

Can You Help?
If you are able to help, feel free to pop me an email at dtowler@tpg.com.au and I'd happily tell you everything I know or even liaise with the Barai family (in Kokoda) for you to get any info you need in advance of a visit.

On a practical note - if the work were to take a day or two (just say - I wouldn't know) then the Barai family would provide you with food and accomodation in their family block of land, which houses their group of huts. This is very near Rustie's block. You would be assured of VIP treatment.

I suppose it would be wise to fly from POM to Kokoda a day or two early - before your trek starts south-bound. Whilst I haven't approached Gail regarding this, I suspect she would be happy to arrange this early flight if it could fit in with existing KTL schedules. The flight cost is included in the KTL package - so we'd just be requesting bringing the flight forward a day or two with another KTL trekking group. All subject to Gail's Ok.

Thanks in advance
Dan
dtowler@tpg.com.au

Visa

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:23:25 +0000

Do most people wait until you are at the Port Moresby airport before getting a visa? It seems difficult to get in advance if you don't live in a capital city.

Trek 432 Kokoda Challenge 30/31 August

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:44:15 +0000

Anyone have any info on the Kokoda Challenge, the non-stop run/walk on the 30/31 August...self supported?, getting to the start? self guided?

Extra Luggage

Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:42:03 +0000

Is there somewhere where we can leave our luggage that we don't take on our trek?? I read somewhere it gets left in Port Morsby, how does this happen and where is it left, and is it safe???

Kokoda Memorial Walk

Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:28:16 +0000

Fot those of you who are interested:

That time of year again and I am pleased to advise the Rotary Club of
Broadwater Southport is conducting the 4th!! Rotary Kokoda Memorial Walk
on Sunday 20 April 2008.

Once again we are pleased to have the support and cooperation of both
State and Gold Coast City Council Agencies and Staff.

The route and format will not differ greatly from previous years i.e.
from the Canungra area, through Nerang, staging at Gold Coast Stadium
and finishing at Cascade Gardens.

Timings also will not change markedly from previous years with the event
being held the Sunday before ANZAC Day (Sun 20 Apr 08) and in daylight
hours between 7am and 4pm on the day of the walk

George Friend, OAM
President
Rotary Club Broadwater Southport
Mob: 0418418282

Cascade Gardens is at Rotary Kokoda Memorial Wall, Cascade Gardens. Gold Coast Highway, Broadbeach, the walk will coincide with the offical opening of the Kokoda Wall at Cascade Gardens.

Swimming

Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:25:24 +0000

Can anyone tell me if at any point on the trail, its necessary to swim ? I can't swim and would like to know if that would/should prevent me from doing it ?
Cheers

Kokoda Weather Forecast

Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:00:34 +0000

Hi

I have no idea at all as to its accuracy but you may find the site below of interest.

http://www.weatherbonk.com/weather/browse/guinea/kokoda

Brian

Tents Optional?

Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:10:42 +0000

This may sound like a bit of a silly question, but do I need to take a tent on the trek?

I have read many of the postings and there is a lot of talk about type of tents to take, etc. As such, I thought taking a tent was a given.

However, I asked my tour operators if we needed a tent and they advised me that there will be plenty of accommodation available when I do the trek in March so I dont need to take a tent.

Is this the case? Is there plenty of accommodation? Do I need to take a tent?

I have a few mates going and at this stage, based on the tour operators advice, none of us have tents.

What to do????

Kokoda Blocked!

Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:27:49 +0000

The below was in this morning Herald Sun

VILLAGERS felled a tree across Papua New Guinea's historic Kokoda Trail, where Australian soldiers fought Japanese troops in 1942, declaring trekking tourists unwelcome.

Village spokesman Barney Jack said about 1000 villagers are demanding the PNG Government allow the Australian company Frontier Resources to dig up 600m of the track to mine a $6.7 billion copper and gold deposit.

The villagers have been offered five per cent in the mine, which could deliver them more than $110 billion over the proposed 10-year life of the project.

But the Australian Government is pressuring the PNG government not to allow the track to be disturbed.

PNG officials expect that up to 6000 trekkers, most of them Australians, will want to travel to PNG after the 2008 trekking season opens early next month.

The blockage has been set up near Naoro village - a cluster of 40 hilltop huts about 55km north-east of the PNG capital Port Moresby.

I was planning on booking this week for a September departure

Too Risky Or Possible?

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:17:18 +0000

hey i know this is the wrong season and all but i was wondering if anybody could give some input advice into my trek. i am going to do the kokoda in a weeks time and people have advicsed me against but its kind of the only time i can do it so i am going.

my main question is will i be able to see the trails or is it easy to get lost cause i am going solo to do it??

thanks
and any other advice would be very apreciated.

Contact Lenses

Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:44:56 +0000

is it possible to wear contact lenses on the kokoda track? mostly regarding hygene and eye care. obviously your hands must be clean when handling contacts, putting them in and taking them out on a daily basis. i am not confortable wearing glasses would prefer not to, but worry about the quality of the water etc.

Legacy-a Very Good Cause

Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:38:40 +0000

I recently purchased some items from Legacy, and thought that maybe someone else might also be interested. The items are a Battle of Isurava Medallion and a keyring. I will attempt to load a photo,but if it doesn't work I may have to get help!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/mrsmoo52/medallion.jpg

Proceeds from the sale of these items help provide for the care of families of Australian Service personnel who die in war, or subsequently, and of those killed in military training accidents. Across Australia, Legacy cares for some 132,000 widows and 1900 children of our veterans.

The medallion features a relief of Bruce Kingsbury VC. The keyring, which is very sturdy and attractive, features George Silk's famous photo of Raphael Oimbari leading Private Whittington at Buna.

Items cost $10.00 each. contact: Gavan White, Community Relations Officer, PO Box 3003 Sth Brisbane BC 4101; Tel: (07) 3846 4299; email: gwhite@legacybrisbane.org.au

Few Thoughts Having Done It

Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:24:35 +0000

hi thought I would put a few thoughts down since I've done it.

1. it was hard. We did in 5.5 days from Owen's Corner to Port Morsbey. Some days I was walking from 6.30 to 6. All up and all down. To prepare I did a lot of stair work. Up and down for an hour. I built it up over 6 months. If I was fair dinkum I would have spent a day or two walking up and down the stairs with a pack with a break for lunch. Train early, do a lot of stairs, build it up over time. Also go for some long walks eg all day, camp then all day.

2. get a porter unless you are a nutter. Great way to get to know the people, and it is hard enough without it.

3. Chuck our half the stuff you have packed. You don't need it. Everyone else will have it. Keep your pack light (especially if you don't have a porter).

4. Long gaiters are useless. Short ones are optional.

5. Pt Moresby is a dangerous s*ithole. If you wander out alone you will probably end up naked and penniless at best. Walk around in groups. Don't be a tourist.

6. The beer is crap (SP).

7. There are a lot of bees and wasps. I didn't expect this.

8. It is very humid. try and spend a day or so getting used to it before you start. Take a spare pair of shoelaces. Mine rotted.

9. My biggest tip is to go at your own pace. On the first day everyone goes nuts, trying to show everyone how fit they are. Forget it. Slow and steady wins this one. On my trek people went fast the first day and ended up spewing with heat exhauston at the end of it.

10. Two people were killed the week I was there. One slipped (local) and died on a rock. One got hacked to death in a fight (local). There is no law. I felt safe though so don't let this put you off.

11. Wear skins. They are lifesavers.

Generally, highly recommended. This tour mob is good, although you need to take your own physical preparation very seriously. Start a year out, and do stair work once a week for a start. Increase the number of stairs each week as "up and down" fitness is very different to say running fitness (or walking).

I can't believe I've done it now. Really pleased I did. Certainly achievable, and safe enough.

Anyway, thought I would share that with you.

Guba Response

Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:58:02 +0000

Hi Gail,

Just wondering what the response has been like to all the appeals? Now that it is a little way on and the Government aid has reached the people needed, it there anything that you find that they need in particular that may be a little short? Have you heard from the Kokoda foundation re their appeal?
and I was wondering how they are all going up there, we hear very little.

Cheers

Nettie

PS. Jaffa is Duncan, did the track with you at the start of November I think.

Trek 354-thank You All.

Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:42:45 +0000

Hi guys,

Galen here from trek 354, (the super trek). I am just posting to thank Gail for providing the logistics needed to make the trek so safe, memorable and enjoyable.

A big thank you to all the KTL boys who not only provided amazing support and assistance, but also became my friends. You are all amazing guys and should be proud of yourselves for performing your jobs so efficiently and affably.

I, and a couple of my trekker-mates, were fortunate enough to be invited into your homes and to meet your loved ones and that personal touch made the trek so much more valuable. On returning home I have told everyone how amazing you boys all are, how strong and capable and also how friendly you are. Thank you so much for everything; your company was enjoyable.

I read the post regarding the troubles in the Oro province and other areas with distress and hope that my Papuan friends and family are all safe. I will send on the items and pictures discussed with you before I left so keep an eye on the mail boys.

Let it flow.

Galen.

Photographs: Galen at Bomana War Cemetery and on the track with other trekkers from Trek 354.

Gifts For Village Kids?

Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:16:56 +0000

Hi all

I'm off on Trek 401 which leaves on the 28th assuming the weather will allow!

A quick and somewhat last minute question. I'm hearing that some trekkers bring something to give to the kids along teh track. Any advice on whether this is a good idea and what kind of gifts are the go since we are trying to get our pack weight down?

Cheers

Problems With Medication

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:18:50 +0000

Hi all

Has anybody had any trouble entering PNG with the normal trek medications like anti-biotics, anti-malaria, anti-diarrhoea, panadine, antihistamines etc?

Are they really strict in customs on this type of stuff?

Silly Question, But Is This Site Related To

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:44:14 +0000

? I need to work out if you guys are one in the same company - as I think I found this forum link on the Kokoda Spirit site, but now I have information overload and am slightly confused...

Porters

Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:49:43 +0000

To admit that he needs a porter and is adament that he can do this all by himself. I'm trying to reason with him that he is not all as fit as what he thinks he is and even if he does carry his pack that after about 3 -4 days he will find this very difficult, but he is not budging on the issue. Any hints on how to persuade him to hire a porter?

Newbie Trekker

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:25:27 +0000

Hi all

I will be first time trekking Kokoda in the first week of December this year and have a few questions...

Will cotton cargo pants or shorts keep me warm enough during the day?

Do I need to take some seriously warm clothing for nighttime or will a run of the mill jumper be sufficient for that time of year?

Do I spend some serious cash and buy top quality outdoor clothing or will the average stuff hold up?

Do I go a couple of long sleeve button-up shirts or a mix with t-shirts?

Thanks in anticipation...

Medical

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:15:07 +0000

For those that have been - what did you ask your doctors for in terms of a fitness letter. I know my Doctor will only want to follow some sort of Medical guideline like a Mines medical or Track permit etc.

I'm Baaaaack! & Survived As Well!

Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:41:11 +0000

Hey all,
Well, I am back and have to tell you it's the hardest thing I have ever done in my life, but was the most self satisfying thing I can ever remember. I don�t think anything can prepare you for the constant climb, however I found coming down worse on my knees, I will elaborate a little later when I have more time, however the reason for this post is to warn any of you who might be leaving soon that Air Nugini is in a complete state of disarray, it was always a dubious airline, with constant off loading, but now they seem to have slipped so far into the mire, I am not sure how they will drag themselves out. Suffice to say, if you are flying from Brisbane, and have connecting flights, make sure you leave yourselves a day�s grace, don�t think that if you are booked on a 6.40am flight out of Port Moresby, that you will make a connecting flight that day, we left at 4.30am to catch a 6.40am flight to Australia, which was confirmed at 10pm the night previously that it was on time, only to get there and find that it was delayed to 9.45am, then 10.25am and we finally took off at 11.25am, there are no facilities at the international airport for a cup of coffee, and the toilets at the terminal leave a lot to be desired, until you get through to the departure lounge itself. If you are flying anywhere else in PNG, then good luck, we flew to Goroka, a 9.15am flight was double booked, we ended up leaving at 4.45pm that afternoon, and we were lucky to get on that one. Getting back was even more exciting, we got there at 8.00am to book in for a 10.45am flight, which we ended up leaving at 11.45am, that wasn�t too bad, there were a group trying to get to a conference in Moresby, and had been trying to get out for 3 days! We got on because of our flight to Australia, apparently that gave us priority. The group we were with also had a 6.40am flight, which was changed to 8.20am, 8 of them managed to get on the original flight, some got on a flight to Cairns and then had to find connecting flights out and some got on the afternoon flight out, but had to overnight in Brisbane and get connecting flights next day. One poor lady on our flight was supposed to connect to Perth, she couldn�t book in because they couldn�t find her another flight to Perth, then she finally got on the plane, she arrived in Brisbane but her back pack didn�t! All part of the Adventure I suppose, I can�t even begin to try and describe how saddened I am that such a beautiful country has slid so far downhill. All in all though, I would do it all again in a heart beat,
More later��..

Porters - General Question

Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:30:41 +0000

Hello all.

I was just wondering if anyone can tell me how much room you need to leave in your pack for your porter's gear. While I am sure that our porters may not consider everything we carry to be a necessity, surely they must take some gear with them. Do porters have a "group porter" that carries their own personal items?

Can anyone help me out here?

Travel Documents

Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:01:50 +0000

Just wondering what people do with thier documents (Passport, Plane tickets etc) whilst on the trek. Can we leave them safely somewhere or do they usually accompany the trekkers?

Booking A Trek

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:36:18 +0000

Hi Guys.

I have submitted a few messages regarding a booking I have made but have not had any response. I know you guys where having some problems with your site so perhaps thats the reason I have`nt heard back.

I have made a booking for trek 390 and paid the deposit. I need to know that this is confirmed so I can make plane bookings.

Regards Duncan

Does The Race Still Occur.

Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:12:24 +0000

Does the trekking race still occur?

If so who organizes it and when is it on?

Thanks in advance

SAS

Phone Coverage

Wed, 10 May 2006 08:49:07 +0000

Hello.. i was just wondering if mobile phones pick up reception on papua new guinea and on the track?? i Dont think they would but i thought i would ask!!

Brisbane "reunion" Walk

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:12:45 +0000

Hope Gail doesn't mind us posting here, but as an ex-Kokoda walker with the KTL boys as our porters we thought this is a good place to post.

Last year we walked the track and met a great group of people while training. We have kept in touch, but always thought that we shoudl get together on Anzac Day to celebrate the spirit of Kokoda.

So, we are doing it Tuesday 25 April.

We will meet at 3pm and walk the newly named "Kokoda Track" at Mt Coot-tha. Meeting point outside Channel Nine. Walk down and back up and then a quick catch up. Bring 6 of your favourite Kokoda photos for a trip down memory lane.

If you want to discuss anything, please give me a call.

Melissa - 0401 003 883

Anyone thinking of walking the track, feel free to come along and get some free advice from people that have done it!

Helicopter Tour

Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:57:19 +0000

Leaving this evening on the first stage of my trip - a 26-hour train trip to Cairns.
Then a plane trip to PM on Saturday.
Sunday I do the helicopter tour.
I'll get home on Wednesday morning - 6 days' travelling fpr a a 1-day tour.

Dind't have to buy a video-camera, as a friend loaned me one, nor did I have to buy a difital camera, as the video-cam takes stills.
Gor mtn GPS, and all I hace to buy this morning is a dictaphone.

Will give a full report on my return.

Delta

Kokoda The Movie

Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:10:11 +0000

I just wanted to let people know a new feature film ?KOKODA? will be in Australian cinemas from late April. It tells the story of a unit from the 39th battalion cut off from supply outside of Isurava during the battle. Thought some of you may be interested in seeing it. More information can be found at www.kokodathemovie.com.au

How Often?

Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:35:30 +0000

Hi. I am new here and am walking the track in June this year. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how often you "run" into other groups on it?

Youngest Female To Walk The Track

Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:30:54 +0000

Hello all,

Firstly let me say what a wonderful website. Very informative.

I have completed 6 Kokoda Treks now and just love it.

I wanted to tell everyone that in August of this year 2005, I took my daughter Alyssa Azar across the track. She is 8 years old and from Australia.

She walked every step of the way herself and carried a Camel Back whilst I carried all of her supplies.

I have posted some photo's in the photo gallery section.

Here's a link to a few others:

Alyssa's Kokoda Trek

Have fun on your trek and remember that anyone can do this if they really want to, and if they prepare properly.

Cheers,

Razor